[impdev] Maintaining Imprudence

Tue Apr 23 15:03:18 PDT 2013

Maria;

If I recall correctly we decided for Kokua to not pursue havok sub-licensing with the rationale 
that a small sub-set of users actually were involved and other viewers such as SL Viewer
could meet the requirements and be a better choice. I know this is counter what most other viewer projects
are doing, but we wanted to keep command line parameters for loginuri and login available to our users.
In future that could change based on input from users and additional volunteers to maintain and
support second parallel releases.

Thank you for your interest in our viewers.

Nicky
PS At the time of the discussion Imprudence was too far behind to consider havok sub-licensing.

>________________________________
> From: Maria Korolov <maria at hypergridbusiness.com>
>To: David Seikel <onefang at gmail.com> 
>Cc: ImpDev at lists.imprudenceviewer.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 10:23 AM
>Subject: Re: [impdev] Maintaining Imprudence
> 
>
>
>David --
>
>
>Thank you for the answers! I'll wait until the last question is answered -- about SL/OpenSim/havoc code/forking -- and then run the article.
>
>
>I'm not sure what's going on with the link. It loads for me, but someone else told me yesterday it wasn't loading for them. Maybe a weird temporary glitch. I hope it's not a problem with the site. 
>
>
>Thank you!
>
>
>-- Maria
>
>____________________________________________________
>Maria Korolov •  508-443-1130 • maria at hypergridbusiness.com
>Editor & Publisher, Hypergrid Business  
>The magazine for enterprise users of virtual worlds.  
>
>
>On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:32 AM, David Seikel <onefang at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:44:09 -0400 Maria Korolov
>><maria at hypergridbusiness.com> wrote:
>>
>>> David --
>>>
>>
>>> Absolutely, thanks!
>>>
>>> -- Maria
>>>
>>> ____________________________________________________
>>> Maria Korolov •  508-443-1130 • maria at hypergridbusiness.com
>>
>>> <http://www.china-speakers-bureau.com/>Editor & Publisher, *Hypergrid
>>> Business* <http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/>
>>> *The magazine for enterprise users of virtual worlds. *
>>>
>>>
>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 3:14 AM, David Seikel <onefang at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I am just one developer, you should be asking your questions of the
>>> > team.  Can I forward your email to the development mailing list so
>>> > we all get a chance to answer?
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 21:42:56 -0400 Maria Korolov
>>> > <maria at hypergridbusiness.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > David --
>>> > >
>>> > > Very cool! Great to hear that Imprudence still has some life in
>>> > > it!
>>> > >
>>> > > Will you be keeping the v1 interface, or upgrading to v3?
>>
>>The general message I get from Imprudence and Kokua users is that they
>>like the Imprudence user interface.  There was a great deal of work done
>>by the Imprudence developers before I joined the team to make the
>>Imprudence user interface make more sense.  I like the work they did,
>>and I would not want to throw it away.
>>
>>Other developers may have other ideas, but I suspect we are all on the
>>same page here.  The Kokua part of the team might mention their take on
>>this subject, since they started with a v3 user interface.
>>
>>
>>> > > And will you be adding support for the new export perm?
>>> > > Singularity has that code (
>>> > >
>>> > http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2013/03/avination-singularity-create-export-permission/
>>> > > ).
>>
>>That link is dead.  A search turned up a teaser for that article, but
>>again the link was dead.  However, an article you wrote yesterday links
>>to that same article, and this link is live.
>>
>>That new feature is not stable yet, and not in any OpenSim release.
>>The last I heard Melanie requested that viewer developers wait a while
>>for it to settle down before implementing it.  So we will do the right
>>thing and wait for it to be stable.
>>
>>
>>> > > And what will you be doing about the new SL licensing guidelines
>>> > > with respecto Havoc and pathfinding code?
>>> > >
>>> > > Will you be keeping that stuff out of Imprudence, and keep it
>>> > > OpenSim-compatible, adding it in and making Imprudence Second
>>> > > Life-only, or forking the code and supporting both options, like
>>> > > Firestorm is doing?
>>
>>That was decided at a meeting long ago that I had missed out on.
>>Unfortunately the transcript for that meeting was never posted, so I
>>can't provide a link, nor have I read the transcript.  I hope that
>>someone that was at that particular meeting can provide some insight.
>>
>>
>>> > > Thanks!
>>> > >
>>> > > -- Maria
>>> > >
>>> > > ____________________________________________________
>>> > > Maria Korolov •  508-443-1130 • maria at hypergridbusiness.com
>>> > > <http://www.china-speakers-bureau.com/>Editor & Publisher,
>>> > > *Hypergrid Business* <http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/>
>>> > > *The magazine for enterprise users of virtual worlds. *
>>
>>
>>--
>>A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants
>>coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
>>
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